# Just discover bird identification! improve & make it open/public?

**URL:** <https://discuss.roboflow.com/t/just-discover-bird-identification-improve-make-it-open-public/6195>\
**Category:** 🛠️ Feature Reqs\
**Tags:** feature-request\
**Created:** [June 15, 2024, 12:10pm UTC](https://discuss.roboflow.com/t/just-discover-bird-identification-improve-make-it-open-public/6195 "2024-06-15T12:10:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![boly38](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/discuss.roboflow.com/boly38/32/4875_2.png) [@boly38](https://discuss.roboflow.com/u/boly38)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2024, 12:10pm UTC](https://discuss.roboflow.com/t/just-discover-bird-identification-improve-make-it-open-public/6195/1 "2024-06-15T12:10:01Z")

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Hi here👋

I’m completely new to roboflow, and new to model training  
and that why my question will maybe be too simple but it’s another way to thanks James about his blog’post…

In context, I’m implementing a bluesky bot which is able to identify plant via plantnet API  
and now I’m studying the way to do the same thing but for birds !  
cf. [Identify Birds ! · Issue #57 · boly38/botEnSky · GitHub](https://github.com/boly38/botEnSky/issues/57)

So the basic idea is to find a free api to share happynness getting a post contribution augmented by bird identification result.

I quickly arrive on James blog post which explain very well how to use roboflow to do that  
[How to Use the Roboflow Bird Detection API](https://blog.roboflow.com/bird-detection-api/) (really amazing post 👍👍)

A basic test is quickly done, and I continue with 14 random Internet bird pics, but unfortunately  
it demonstrate some wrong identifications (3 ok of 14 sample). I thinks that’s because the success is limited to the current dataset knowledge.

> the model only detects the species of around 30 birds,

So here is my question:

- is it possible to get a “bird v2” like dataset+training model supported by a community  
that can improve over the year with open community contribution for example ? (in the same idea of wikiedia, open street map, open food fact…)

I think that maintaining an training a model is an huge and paining work, and that why I’m curios about an open contribution model to do that.  
maybe roboflow is already able to do that I dont know ? what do you think ?

Thantks for your answer.

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**Author:** ![rfjames](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/82dd89/32.png) [@rfjames](https://discuss.roboflow.com/u/rfjames)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2024, 1:56pm UTC](https://discuss.roboflow.com/t/just-discover-bird-identification-improve-make-it-open-public/6195/2 "2024-06-17T13:56:19Z")

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Hello! Thank you for reading the blog post! There is a lot of opportunity to build datasets for species identification. I would start by looking to see if there are any research institutions that have already made large datasets for bird detection on the internet. If there are not any, you could reach out to a few people who have done research in the field to see if they have data that you could use.

Separately, you may be interested in BioCLIP, a zero-shot classification model that aims to classify a wide range of natural organisms on the Tree of Life: [BioCLIP: A Vision Foundation Model for the Tree of Life](https://imageomics.github.io/bioclip/). While BioCLiP is exclusively for classification, this model could serve as a good zero-shot identifier for bird recognition applications where there is only one subject in the image.

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**Author:** ![boly38](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/discuss.roboflow.com/boly38/32/4875_2.png) [@boly38](https://discuss.roboflow.com/u/boly38)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2024, 12:56pm UTC](https://discuss.roboflow.com/t/just-discover-bird-identification-improve-make-it-open-public/6195/3 "2024-06-19T12:56:22Z")

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thank you so much for you response, I’ll have to dig that ^^ regards

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**Author:** ![boly38](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/discuss.roboflow.com/boly38/32/4875_2.png) [@boly38](https://discuss.roboflow.com/u/boly38)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2024, 6:52pm UTC](https://discuss.roboflow.com/t/just-discover-bird-identification-improve-make-it-open-public/6195/4 "2024-06-30T18:52:42Z")

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@rfjames hey I was able to rework the BioClip demo to make another API right here : [GrBird - a Hugging Face Space by 3oly](https://huggingface.co/spaces/3oly/grBird)

thanks again for your initial input about BioClip, that is a really good model.  
Regards

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**Author:** ![boly38](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/discuss.roboflow.com/boly38/32/4875_2.png) [@boly38](https://discuss.roboflow.com/u/boly38)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2024, 4:32pm UTC](https://discuss.roboflow.com/t/just-discover-bird-identification-improve-make-it-open-public/6195/5 "2024-07-04T16:32:04Z")

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@botEnSky bluesky bot updated to v1.2.0 ^^

 ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/uploads/roboflow1/original/2X/7/78a2858bd37544e1d680ddf0482fdc63d85d000e.jpeg)
